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'I Dated a Serial Killer!' Alleged Murderer's Ex Posts on Facebook

A Plainfield woman bragged on her Facebook page about her romantic past with an alleged killer she accused in court of abusing and disfiguring her.

 

Ivon Walsh told a judge in 2009 that her former boyfriend branded a swastika and upside down cross into her buttocks, burned and cut her body, and threatened to disembowel her and strangle her young daughter with her intestines.

Nearly four years later, when that boyfriend was charged with choking two men to death, Walsh went on Facebook and boasted about her romantic connection with an alleged double murderer.

"I dated a serial killer!!!!!!" wrote Walsh, 26, of Plainfield, on Jan. 12.

"It could have been me years ago," Walsh said, apparently in reference to the two Joliet men killed last week, allegedly by Walsh's ex-boyfriend, 24-year-old Joshua Miner, and three others.

Miner, along with Alisa Massaro, 18, Adam Landerman, 19 and Bethany McKee, 18, have been jailed since Friday on charges of first-degree murder. They allegedly strangled Terrance Rankins and Eric Glover, both 22, as part of a deranged robbery plot.

Massaro and McKee allegedly lured Rankins and Glover to Massaro's North Hickory Street home. Once there, police said, the two men were strangled and left dead in the house with plastic bags over their heads.

After the killings, Massaro, McKee, Miner and Landerman "continued the party atmosphere" in the Hickory Street house, said Joliet Police Chief Mike Trafton.

Officers investigating a tip that there were two dead bodies in Massaro's house found the corpses and also came upon Massaro, Miner and Landerman playing video games near the strangled men, police said.

McKee had already taken off for Kankakee but police in that town reportedly caught her driving with a small child in the back of her car. Kankakee Police Chief Larry Regnier said the Joliet police contacted his department about the double murder and told them McKee was headed their way. They apprehended her just after she drove into town, Regnier said. He wasn't sure what she was doing there.

"We don't know what the connection is" to Kankakee, Regnier said. The child was turned over to McKee's parents, he said.

In the aftermath of the brutal killings, Walsh—whose page says she works at Walmart and is a former employee of the defunct Romeoville strip club Crazy Rock—seems to have expected such a diabolical act from her former boyfriend.

"I used to date joshua miner!!! I'm not surpised!" she wrote on her Facebook page, including a link to a Patch story about the murders in her post.

Walsh may have seen it coming in light of the vicious abuse she accused Miner of when she petitioned for a protective order against him in April 2009.

Besides branding, burning, cutting and threatening her, Walsh wrote in her petition that she had three miscarriages and that Miner beat her.

Miner "has also strip(ped) me down naked in front of his friend and punched me in the stomach," Walsh wrote.

A judge denied Walsh's petition.

Walsh also came up in a 2005 criminal indictment charging Miner with child pornography. Miner allegedly made a video recording of Walsh, then known as Ivon Gurrola, as she "placed her tongue in the vagina" of an underage girl in October 2005. Miner was convicted of misdemeanor unauthorized videotaping and sentenced to a year of conditional discharge.

"You know how to pick em," teased one of Walsh's Facebook friends, apparently oblivious to the Plainfield woman's belief that her family survived a brush with death.

"I was so shocked he called my sister the day b4 and asked to stop by," Walsh wrote, "that could have been my family dead real s--- man."

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Related Topics: Adam Landerman, Alisa Massaro, Bethany McKee, Eric Glover, Joliet double murder, Joshua Miner, and Terrance Rankins

lala

4:05 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

This all seems surreal, like a made for TV movie.

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boozer mcgee

10:32 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I dated a serial killer, but the good news is I saved a bundle on my car insurance!

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boozer mcgee

7:19 pm on Friday, January 18, 2013

proof that you cannot fix stupid...watch all the media whores come out of the wood work now!

Tina

5:04 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

She also told Fox news she was chained up in his mothers home starved, beaten and made to use a garbage can as a restroom.I'm wondering if ALL of it is true, it seems like she adds more to the story each time.Maybe she just didn't remember???

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lala

7:03 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

And she also mentioned nine miscarriages. Nine??? Ummm....how could anyone have sex with someone that treats you like that? We know she is sick beyond words to keep going back to him. There is another article on here where she states she saw him push his grandmother down the stairs. But had enough sense though to try to get a restraining order? She also calls him a serial killer but a serial killer is traditionally defined as an individual who has killed three or more people over a period of more than a month. This one also has a young child. Can you imagine the horror for that child when she someday Googles mommy's name and all this stuff shows up? Lather, rinse, repeat.

MarRos.

5:08 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I dont know about anyone else but I wouldnt want people to know I dated an murderer... Seems to me shes trying to get her 15min in. There isa reason that judge denied her petition.

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Colt45

6:54 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I agree, 15 min 10 min, whatever. I would never let anyone know that I dated this animal.

rabidatheist

6:24 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I would say this moron should have looked up the phrase "serial killer" but I imagine she doesn't spend a lot of time opening books, let alone a dictionary.

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TheQuietOne

11:12 am on Tuesday, February 26, 2013

We're talking about the bright mind that decided to publish a Facebook status about dating a murderer....

Colt45

6:52 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

There is an old saying and it goes like this.....#1.Show me your friends, and I will tell you what your are.. #2,,, water seeks it's own level....and last but not least..#3...You lay down with dogs, you wake up with flea's. I guess those OLD SAYINGS are true.

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heavenbound

7:50 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Kitty - don't worry about people who judge you. God knows your heart, and that is all that matters. Keep your head up and don't let anyone bring you down. Take care of your blessing that calls you "Mom" and focus on what is true.

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Brittany

8:02 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Yet you brag about dating a 'serial killer' on your page? I'm not a licensed doctor but I recommend some serious counseling and www.dictionary.com.

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Kitty

8:07 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

U all have to say but only god knows what I have gone through I hope u open ur hearts cuz ur listening to what satan controlling ur minds and I didnt kill those poor people the devils minions did my life is dedacated to love those even if u judge me remeber this gods watching us all and iwish for 1day god can seek ur hearts and I would die for u all on the cross cuz I love ever1 and I pray for the family that have lost loved ones as I pray for u all as well to stop judgeing life is too short to hate and none of u were there I was and I don't hate what u have all said but the only person who can jugde me is god I hope he opens ur hearts out there as well as what u say cuz we are all gods children and he has a plan for us all so live laugh and love as god and I want happyness for u all I pray for all the hate that the devil has put I'm ur hearts may u find the light cuz u all don't know the paini have gone thur only god dose! Thu shall not lie where human we should protect each other we are all gods children so judge me as u please but only god knows how much I have suffered I wish u a long and happy loveing life....

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Timothy Cobler

8:16 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

She is my sister in law she was too afraid to tell the police cuz of all the abuse so leave her alone she's been thru enough Thank you

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D Smith

7:30 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I would have never admitted being related. Never. It's too late, peaches, it's too late.

Kitty

8:41 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Tim I love u god is with in u and u knowI'm not here to be famous I'm a depressed woman who has suffered a long time I wish ppl will stop judgeing me and judge the ones who have ruined a families life and scared them I feel as if every1 is blaming me for this murder I tried as a good mother to protect my child I wish these ppl could walk a mile I'm my shoes maybe they would understand the pain I feel

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blue

2:45 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

no, nobody is blaming you, they are just saying you should have shut your mouth like before.

Kitty

9:05 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I love u tank tim lisa and all thoughs who understand my pain

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Tank

9:10 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Get her mugshot off your page you make it look like did it too all you people make me sick

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Tank

9:18 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I know her personally its not exagerated shes got problems and its because of what he put her thru and where do you work walmart maybe i should rag on you for not finishing high school and getting stuck working a low end job

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lala

9:46 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

1. Okay if she has problems (and I am sure she does), and you are saying "he" put her through it. Why does she mention she was suicidal at the age of 7? Surely she was not with him then? Why was she not helped by her parents?

2. WHY is she airing all her dirty laundry on a public forum and not expecting people to respond?

3. Where were her parents/family members/school social workers/friends when all of this was going on? If my daughter were caught up in something like that, it would have ended when I found out.

Bethany

9:22 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Wahhhhh! Internet is srs bsness guys

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Jchan

9:26 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Lol I like how you think I work at walmart. But your friend works there too I'm guessing she didn't finish high school too and must be so retarded to work there

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lala

9:51 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Please tell me that the link provided above to her Facebook page does not have a picture of a tattooed penis as a timeline photo. Wonder how God would feel about that.

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Zaney

10:23 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

This entire story needs to be pulled.

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Tina

10:58 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I didn't say a word about why she stayed with him or even said she lied. I said I WONDER if ALL of its true. I know for a fact that women in abusive relationships stay way too long because of fear.I get that. BUT what hasn't been explained is her role in the child molesting, what it says she did to that little girl ON VIDEO?? Did Josh make her do that? Because there is nothing anyone could do to me to make me do what she did to that young girl. NOTHING!

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MarRos.

11:00 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

I can understand pain and depression but at the same time I took responsibility to take charge of my life. I realized the wrong path I was taking & changed it. I seeked help & Im a stronger person now. For 9 years I was in abusive relationship but I got out. I pursued actions to get this person out of my life. I never gave up. Im hoping for your childs sake you dont give up either. At the same time dont put yourself & loved ones out on a ledge for others to push you down because in this society today thats what will happen as you can read. My prayers to those affected by all of this & Kitty you as well because it seems you need it too!

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Timothy Cobler

11:45 pm on Wednesday, January 16, 2013

Tank and my sister in law kitty I agree with theboth of you this has nothing to do with 15 minutes of fame this has to do with 2 people being killed and a woman being tortured I have your back all the way

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Social Butterfly

9:24 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

It doesn't take a detective to figure out that the father of McKee's child was in Kankakee. He left a comment on her profile picture after she had been arrested. Not that it matters...just saying.

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High Hopes for OL

9:24 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Charles Mason new family. There is to many mentally ill people roaming the streets with no were to go.

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GJ

9:24 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

The whole thing is sickening.... To know there are people out there who are so sick, twisted, ignorant, mean, etc.. Makes you wonder what happened to them when they were growing up???

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Mayhem

9:24 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

It's sad in a million different ways. There are so many innocent peoples lives (family members) who affected by all of this. For the four that did this...they deserve the worst the law can hand out. Hopefully there will be no plea bargaining and they sit their a$$es in jail until they rot. The problem with this is that now we, the tax payers have to support them until they either die in prison or get out and get on public aid.

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Mayhem

9:24 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Kitty / Ivon.... It is terrible what you say you have been through, but putting things like this on your facebook page opens you up to being judged. Its clear that you have issues, but putting your story out for all to see, especially the media will do nothing but cause you more pain and drive you deeper into depression. Get yourself OUT of the spotlight. Get the help you need mentally and emotionally! Dont look for therapy on facebook.

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NotKeepingUpWithTheJones'

9:24 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I know some of the old Rock girls and they will embellish a story and make themselves look like a victim at every opportunity.

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n mac

9:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

You are a liar ask the east bay every knows nasty kitty

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n mac

9:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Dont fall for it i know her personally this js all for attention

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Jane

8:46 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

It seems several others on this feed know her as well and agree with her abusive past. Would be interested in your experience. What light can you shed? In a manner that the Patch will post.

n mac

9:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

So i put the truth about her up and it gets deleted..

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Brittany

9:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Wait so patch denied my comment? This girl can say she would die on the cross for everyone and I can't respond questioning how ridiculous it is she compared herself to Jesus???? I'm not religious but that's just insane! This whole case is insane!

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Elizabeth F

10:17 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Is this a joke? This is pure white trash. What's even scarier is two of the woman mentioned in this article have children. Great, more messed up citizends for the future. Fantasizing about blood and gore, jugalos and jugalettes(what a joke), cutting yourself, airing your dirty laundry for attention. I'm embarrased for you. You're 26 years old with a child, grow up and get help. WTF?

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Bethany

10:32 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I agree! This whole thing is disgusting along with the people involved and those that are supporting this stupidity! Time to grow up and be responsible for your own actions!

Hugo

10:53 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Seems more or less like normal, healthy, teenage shenanigans to me...

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lala

11:20 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

How bout a story on the victims and how their families lives are forever changed? I think the murderers have gotten more attention than they deserve.

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I'm Just Saying

12:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I agree 100%% . The Familys are the ones to Plan a unexpected Funeral I pray for them. The Devil Children will I HOPE GET whats COMING TO THEM Not just a Slap on the ass!!!!

Jen

11:39 am on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I think it's funny how someone sticking up for this chick tried to put someone else down by saying" you must work at Wal-Mart" because the article says that's where SHE works!

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Jack LaLane

12:25 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Censoring the truth. Another day with the Joliet press.

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no thanks

12:25 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

how do you all know that was bragging? because the caption here says so? how do you know how she meant a short statement like n"i dated a serial killer!!!" could that not have been an omg momment for her? im sure she is well aware that her relationship was f'd up......but maybe she realized she's lucky to not be a victim of a murder. how can you judge by that statement? furthermore.....she is an abused woman....he is the criminal not her....its quite obvious that this guy is a manipulator and abuser.....two girlfriends sought protection orders....u cannot judge her if you have never walked in her shoes. grow up n quit with the school yard judgement games!

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Bethany

12:37 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

How do you know it wasn't bragging?

Jessica Hart

12:48 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Wow, you people need to stop complaining about this poor girl. She didn't kill anyone, her ex did. Her story is on the news because it provides insight into how twisted Miner is, and how he has a history of abuse. And a Facebook post is generally a spur-of-the-moment thing, not a well-thought-out statement. She said she dated a killer. How is that bragging? The article makes it seem like she's proud of it. Maybe she was just stating it, so her friends could see that she was right when she tried and failed to file restraints against the guy.

And who cares if she worked at a strip club? I'll bet your husbands and/or boyfriends have all gone to a club and/or looked at porn at some point. They're the ones who funded her, so they're just as trashy.

Yeah, she works at WalMart, but she's also going to college and trying to better herself, according to her Facebook page. It's not like she's sitting at home relying on the government to take care of her, as so many other people do.

And the report mentions the ex forcing her to give oral to a minor. A minor could be anyone younger than 18. How old was Walsh when it happened? 19? 20? It might be gross and illegal and definitely shouldn't have happened, but quit acting like it was a little girl or that Walsh is some horrible person. Kids start having sex in their EARLY teens nowadays. It was a miracle that I waited til I was 20. Don't blame the girls forced into sex trafficking; blame the pimps.

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rabidatheist

4:09 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Did you actually read her post about the devil, and god? Does that look like the writing of someone that has made it to college? I can see why the early church fathers viewed education as the enemy of the church. The more uneducated one is, the easier it is to make them believe fairy tales are real.

Jo

1:24 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

How was her Facebook post bragging? She obviously has some issues, but a lot of people vent on Facebook.

I'd like to know what school district she went through, and fire any and all teachers that allowed her to pass even 8th grade.

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Jo

1:33 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Why are there police photos of 5 people with this article? I thought only 4 people were arrested for the murder?

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Jo

1:35 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Since 3 of the 4 arrested were still in the house when the police arrived and McKee is the only one who left the house, is she the one who reported the murders?

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Kitty

2:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

The girl was 17 with a fake id get ur facts right and she even told the judge and showed prof of the fake id my neice was 6yrs old and raped by my sisters boyfriend and the 17yr old girl dated a man who was 28 and didn't get in. trouble i an going thought couseling and have been seeing a dr for years now and I only worked at a club cuz as a divorced mom I has to take care of my baby to put foo in her mouth and clothes on herr back and my love for my daughter is responsability and there are tons if women who have worked there to provide a home overt there childs head I go to church as well and the post on fb was to vent it was am omg moment not for fame u don't know me and god has changed my life I pray every night for those poor victims family who they don't have in this world any more

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Kitty

2:57 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Humanity it seems as if nobody cares anymore I have grown up why don't those who judge me grow up I have gone thur enuff I an keeping my head up Im seeing acounselor as well a depression specilist my life has changed I'm doing well went don't those who judge me do something with ur life I am ur rude comments made me feel as if I wanted to commit suicide last night but I read my baby a story and she held my hand and told me mom I'm proud that we both go to school she told me I was her best friend and after crying we both prayed that 1 day every1 will just play nice with eachother cuz life us to short to be hurting eachother and because of those who got me upset my angel is my purpose in life and may god have murcy in ur judgments that u have made of me I'm not the monster cuz there locked up I'm making something of my self how bout u?

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blue

3:32 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Yeah, just remember your baby. She needs you now, and will later. maybe you should stop commenting and trying to defend yourself because your past is in the present, and you are not going to make anything better, or change the fact that people are entitled to their own opinions. I really feel sorry for you, that your name is out there and you look like a dope feind next to the people with your mug shot all out there, but you know, all this stuff is accessible to the public. Also, you may want to update the privacy settings on your facebook page so nobody except your friends can view anything on or about your profile, and possibly consider changing that cover picture you have because it really looks like a picture of a tattoo on a dick. I'm just saying. I'll add you to my prayers and hope that you may be able to find peace in your life, and hopefully you'll be able to have a great future with your family. Read the bible and get to know the difference between God and Jesus, and get to know something substantial about religion, rather than what you currently know. Peace, and God bless. I'll leave you alone now. It may seem like I've been attacking you, but I am not. It's good that you helped clarify that child porn thing cuz we were all wondering about that...

Christina

3:13 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

I will pray every night for your daughter....her life has got to be a living nightmare with you as her parent.

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blue

3:37 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

now that was just uncalled for.

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rabidatheist

4:11 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Does praying give you a warm and fuzzy feeling inside so you can tell yourself you are doing something for this child, without actually doing anything?

Lynne

3:35 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

This is a sick sick world and this is a sick sick person. Too bad that she has a child who will undoubtedly keep sliding down the shameful path her parent has started for her. Why oh,Why brag about this to anyone. You should be ashamed beyond reason.
Don't spout about God, just pray to him for forgiveness of all the wretched things you have done in your short life.

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Elizabeth F

4:19 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Advice: Do NOT tell the public your lives, especially on fb or giving your story to a reporter. Sorry, but she asked for the rudicule. Lesson learned I guess.

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Timothy Cobler

4:27 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

She didn't ask for anything advice to you keep your mouth shut she has every right to speak her mind if you don't like it don't listen or better yet go away

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MomofmanyinPlainfield

5:49 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Kitty/Ivon/Dorion - whatever your name is, please do your daughter and yourself a favor and go back to school to learn how to form a sentence that sounds well put together. Also, stay away from men until your daughter is out of high school so she doesn't see the examples you have choosen thus far.
The most important thing in your life is your daughter, not you. Remember that and try to do well by her!

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Bethany

6:58 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Haha keep feeding the trolls. No sir it is YOU that is the moron.

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D Smith

7:18 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Someone needs to contact the Department of Child & Family Services...some should go through some type of screening before they can have a child. Nine miscarriages? I'll say what some are thinking..... they're better off.
Code words for failures in life, if you've been saying either of these statements for greater than 5 years....'I'm going to school or this is my fiancee'

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D Smith

7:22 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Anyone else get a headache trying to read some of these comments? The placement of some words....make sense just no....see what I mean? It's contagious. I'm leaving now, I'm dumbing down fast.

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Chris

8:45 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

Mouth breathing knuckle dragging morons , all of them ,

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Rob Williams

9:18 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

That picture from instagram is NOT Landerman. I'm not sure why all these news pages are saying it when the court of public opinion is still extremely relevant in a disturbing and heartbreaking case like this when facts are distorted and rumors are rampant. The families want to know what really happened and why, so many versions and more sick stories every day

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no thanks

11:21 pm on Thursday, January 17, 2013

brilliant well thought out response to my previous comment bethany. why even bother saying anything? did i say she wasn't bragging? no i questioned how one would know the difference when she posted one sentence. the author of the article states she is bragging in the article.

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Jane

6:57 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Darla black Lopez - your kind words are appreciated. However, given the history and abuse these women suffered as children at the hands of their own father, what is their current relationship with their mother? If the father is so open about his abuse, to the girls and the wife, how is this still going on? How does a child, Dorian, begin counseling at age of 7 for these horrific things that have been done to her and her sister and still the father is free?! Shouldn't one of these "counselors" stepped in and had them removed from the home due to the abuse or contacted DCFS?

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darla black lopez

9:49 am on Friday, January 18, 2013

Jane the walsh sisters nolonger live at there's fathers home and have very minimal contact. There father was never charged with abuse. I can tell u first hand our justic system here does not help much.I was a victim of a crime last yr. I was rushed to silver cross and sustained damage to my spin,sprain ankle and wrist,multiple bruises and my attacker got probation. That's it! Like I said iam only a person in the neighborhood.I have no clue why there father wasent arrested he should have been.why these girls weren't removed yrs ago I have no clue.I do know abuse can do horrific things,one is keeping silence and another thinking what is happening normal to them when it was accuring because its all they knew.what's normal for a healthy persone isent normal for a abused person,there's multiple dynamics whith abuse and not enough time here to explain them all. I council abused women and the damage abuse can do is horrific

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Olddeegee

9:11 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

No. It's barbaric revenge and it ends up costing more. Convict the guilty parties, lock them up, and they'll never bother anybody again.

Hartz

10:01 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

Barbaric revenge?! Do you know what the maximum sentence is, in illinois?
Our judicial system is so screwed up; how can you be so sure that they'll "never bother anybody again"?

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Olddeegee

10:20 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

I refuse to let the depravity of others lessen my humanity. You can lower yourself all you want. I believe that at least one of these losers will get life without parole, and the others won't see freedom for decades, if ever. Anything beyond that is gratuitous and makes us no better than them. To quote you, "Our judicial system is so screwed up", that we've killed dozens of innocent people in the last nearly two centuries as a state.

Hartz

11:22 am on Tuesday, January 22, 2013

I can see your point, and in a lot of cases I would agree. I just feel that once all of the details are released in this case, one of the suspects will deserve a lethal injection. With his past mental instability it saddens and scares me to think that he will be out in 1 decade.

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Bryce "ShaKKey" Johnston

11:36 am on Wednesday, February 13, 2013

Josh Minor is my co-defendant in my 2010 case..he's a lunatic..had some good tendencies but still crazy..he's so warped by insane clown posse's music..if your familiar with it..I pray that one day he could repent to god of his sins..as for this bitch claiming josh pushed his gma down the stairs..that's total bullshit..he might be a lunatic but he loves his gma to death..she just wanted reconigition..I hatte fake ppl like her

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jerry jtwn patton

11:38 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Put me in a cage with them fucking retards and see who gets strangled fuck you to co defendent ill beat your ass when i find your case file.Music dosent have shit to do with being a dumb ass

joliet ill JLP

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