State Cops & FBI Searching For Stacy Peterson in Hammel Woods
A helicopter, police dogs, state cops and federal agents were searching for missing mom Stacy Peterson in Hammel Woods Monday.
Federal agents and state cops searched through Hammel Woods forest preserve in Shorewood Monday looking for signs of missing mom Stacy Peterson.
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A state police source confirmed that the operation—which included at least one helicopter and police dogs—was part of the search effort for the Bolingbrook mother, who disappeared in October 2007.
Weeks after Stacy vanished, state police officials named her husband, Drew Peterson, 58, as the sole suspect in the investigation the then-23-year-old's disappearance.
Peterson has never been charged with harming Stacy, but was convicted in September of murdering his previous wife, Kathleen Savio.
Savio, the third of Peterson's four wives, was found drowned in her dry bathtub in March 2004. The state police quickly concluded Savio perished in a freak accident but were forced re-examine that theory after Stacy mysteriously disappeared.
Prior to the search, the state police told forest preserve officials they were doing nothing more in Hammel Woods than training, said Bruce Hodgdon, the spokesman for the Will County Forest Preserve.
Joan Hyde, a spokeswoman for the FBI's Chicago office, confirmed that agents were in Hammel Woods "working with ISP as part of an ongoing criminal investigation."
The state police source said the operation was not prompted by a recent tip or breakthrough in the investigation, but was merely one of a number of periodic searches. These searches are conducted in areas that investigators believe Stacy's body may have been left, and Shorewood contains a number of them.
Peterson's stepbrother, Thomas Morphey, has said Peterson enlisted him in an effort to frame former Shorewood resident Scott Rossetto for Stacy's murder. Peterson believed Stacy and Rossetto were carrying on romantically behind his back, Morphey and other sources have said.
Officials have said they found cell phone activity from Stacy's cell phone in the Shorewood area around the time she disappeared.
Watchful Eye
4:43 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Why do I find it hard to believe ISP and the FBI would randomly pick a possible burying ground for Stacy's remains in the ongoing investigation for her? I doubt their resources and time are so loose to be able to do that. That being said, from the early days of Stacy's disappearance, wasn't the rumor swirling that DP tried to frame Rossetto, who lived in Shorewood at the time, of harming Stacy and/or burying her somewhere near his home?
gime sum
8:01 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
why's everybody always picking on drew? she ran off, just like her mother did.
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:52 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
gime sum, Ur obviously a Drew Peterson fan, groupie or friend. Maybe you are really Drew on free computer time in jail writing it with our tax $?
Scream
1:17 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Awww , poor Drew, he's getting picked on, gime sum! Cry me a handful.
Lynn Kulhanek
8:28 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
ya we are all picking on him i noticed in the court stacey told her minister that he was also killing the guys under him in the service
Sheila P.
11:03 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I can't for the life of me understand why, if Stacy's phone had pings in Shorewood, it took 5 YEARS for them to search this area. I feel for Stacy's poor family and children. This is truly absurd
Robert Bourg
2:26 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
ISP is a wait of money....they should be doing something mindless like shooting radar and ticketing semi-trucks speed on the state highways.
Annette
8:04 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
yes I agree, and DP had the abilities to put a tail on Rossetto to know his activity and locations at the time of her dissapearance. i would be colaborating w/Rossetto to look in the areas he was when she went missing. I just dont understand why DP "the primary suspect" and the interview w/the stepbrother was not further investigated? The fact that the stepbrother attempted to kill himself and what he had reported to investigators, They should have NEVER STOPPED LOOKING FOR STACEY PETERSON! Unbelievable! Somewhere I saw a photo of a Blue barrel on the edge of some waterway! What was that lead reported to be? Did it ever get investigated? Where is that blue barrel now? All that I can say to the FBI is: FIND STACEY PETERSON, NOW!
Anna Rose Redlich
5:31 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I think she is in one of the columns of 355 in the area back way toward Lemont. They pored the concrete the day she disappeared.
jack
6:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
If we ripped up every piece of concrete that coincided with her disappearance, there would be 200 houses that would be gone. This is just plain STUPID logic.
Barry A Clarke`
11:00 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Jack,
If this is just plain stupid logic, it would make perfect sense for Drew to have done that! Thanks for pointing the logic out......................
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:48 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
It makes perfect logic.
Peter Jahan Bernhard Lehmeyer
3:39 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
A composite sample of the slab of concrete as a primary result of it's molecular compososition would yield the same pH levels if tested with phenolphthalein (correct me if i am wrong) as human blood.
Lynn Kulhanek
8:32 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
i think she could be anywere he owned a plane.but she is deffenly dead he killed her and i think the step brother that admitted helping drew that night that later they said killed himself i think drew killed him to
Joanna
8:39 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Lynn-I don't know how he died but is it possible he committed suicide as a result of feeling guilty for helping to cover up the crime?
Annette
8:10 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Did you contact the FBI on this lead? That's Important REALLY Information! I mean it! Demand it be looked into because that is the kind of criminal DP is! Just like a Mobster!
Aussienat
8:50 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
Sheesh. There are so many people here just guessing at stuff.
For one thing, the step-brother Thomas Morphey did not kill himself. He attempted to kill himself. And he has already given a statement to the FBI about Drew trying to get him to help with hiding what he believes was Stacy's body.
Read up on the case people. Best place for all the comprehensive info is at justice cafe on wordpress.
Aussienat
8:51 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
Oh and the 'was' was nothing more than a glider. Not really the right vessel for flying a dead body around in.
RobynD323
6:26 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Personally? I have always thought this. But, I believe she is inside of the Peterson home. Inside of one of the walls. Drew Peterson, is so smart he probably placed her cell near Shorewood while he was on the other side of town. I feel she's inside walls of the home she shared with Drew. Nobody is that confident. She's in that house..They need to go check.
Ernie Carneau
1:53 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I remember someone helping him with a 55 gal drum, that left he house. After John Wayne Gacy, I wouldn't think mr drew would have left her in the house. And he had to know the Gacy case too!
Naomi Aguilar
5:09 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Peterson is as evil and cunning as any human being can be. I want to vomit every time i see a photo of him or see him on TV.
Elena Conway
8:45 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
OMG drew is so smart!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think you and gimme sum should get together both of you are living in a fantasy world. Go to the prison and see him. both of u are not in your right mind.
Annette
8:22 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
They should take it (his house) to the GROUND! There should be NO STONE LEFT UNTURNED until they find her! If they had not been so slack to begin with...They would have already found her. And...I thought that the Half/step brother Had only attempted to kill himself? I didnt know he was dead too.
Well if thats the case, Alot of people are coming up missing, drowned, and committed suicide that are in DP INTER-CIRCLE! HUMMMMM...FBI: Jeezz we are stumpted, we just cant see to connect the dots here, Its a DEAD END TRAIL. what the hell?
Bill Short
6:48 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
At what point does this "episode" become a story any longer! A lot of manpower has gone into the investigations and subsequent happenings. We've reached a point where this is a non story. When one of his paramours does him in, Peterson, that is.....then it's a story again but not 'til then.
stefanie
10:44 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I know this is probably a shock for you, Billy Boy but we don't all feel the same way that you do! You may not care about this case any longer but some of us DO!
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:46 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
This is a story until there is an ending. There needs to be closure. Once they find Stacy, her family and friends can finally have closure. The not knowing can drive a person insane. Once they find her, the proof will tell the story of what happened. Then Drew will rot in Hell X2.
Linda F
9:09 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Bill - it certainly is not a "non-story" to her family who I am sure would give anything to give their daughter the decent burial she deserves. Keeping this story alive will bring someone out of the woodwork who knows something, at least that is my hope.
It's Your Life
10:13 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
How can you reach a point of ending when there is someone who gets away with MURDER!!
Jose
6:54 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Peterson is guilty, no doubt in my mind. Just like o.j.
Michele
8:45 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I second that. They will grt theirs sooner or later . You can bet on it!
Logan
1:03 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
There really is no such a thing as closure........it is always there, and never leaves, even though many call it "closure."
Annette
8:31 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
yep OJ - double murder, Scott Peteson- wife and unborn baby son, Drew peterson- 3rd wife 4th wife & possible half brother. Never let Drew peterson get away with this! Never stop till she comes home! Pray everyday
for her to be found.
Richard Saunders
7:01 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
A) The south portion of 355 opened in November '07. I hope like heck they poured the concrete columns sooner than the month before.
2) Cadaver dogs were taken through the house.
Who opened the Crazy Room?
Despiser of Obama
7:05 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
In the walls of the residence? Are you kidding me.
Cadaver dogs have been inside the residence. The stench would be unbearable now.
Kristine Neumann
7:10 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Why didn't they search that area when Stacy first disappeared if they knew there was cell phone activity on her phone back then? Something does not make sense to me.
Raffael Zuccaro
7:15 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
The good news, is that he will be charged for at least 1 murder Its not like getting away with killing your wife like Robert Wagner, Robert Blake and William Shattner and getting away with it!!!!
daisy d
9:52 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
they can't charge murder until they found the body, so he did good hidding the body, remember he;s a cop too, he knows that. ...smart
stefanie
10:45 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
You don't need to have a body to charge someone with murder...it makes thinks harder to NOT have a body though.
deeznutz
1:42 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Thank you Raffael for acknowledging Robert Wagner & William Shattner getting away with their wifes' murders! How the public oversees that is disturbing. I mean who can forget about beautiful Nathalie Wood and her tragic death in 'dark blue water' (that she erely mentioned on the Dinah show that she always feared dark blue deep water/ocean since she was little.) Shady!!!
Peggy Cochran
7:13 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I believe that they are all guilty as krapp, too!
Linn Lucas
12:31 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
wow, he is so guilty, ya if they had a ping why did'nt they investigate a long time ago???? Her poor family .....
Throwawaygirl
1:28 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
For Daisy D...they can too charge for murder, and they have in the past. But in the case of Casey Anthony (who killed her 3 year old Callie), she was charged before the poor little girls body was ever found, but acquitted by a jury of her peers. With or without a body, this man needs to be convicted, and put away for a very long time (or death penalty which would be a better punishment for him).
Yvonne Stearns
8:04 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Amen to that comment!
Despiser of Obama
7:22 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
First of all Robert Blake was arrested and acquitted. Robert Wagner and William Shatner were never suspects or even arrested.
Paul Forsyth
7:41 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
You know Robert Blake killed that woman. Just listen to his interviews. They will never find Stacy though. DP is as slick as oil. I just wish he was in the same cell as big Bubba, then DP would know what it's like to date a older man.
Mary Jensen
7:46 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Let's hope that they finally find that poor girl. I'm sure her family would love to give her a proper burial. As for that monster that she was married to, I hope that they finally get some evidence on him for her murder....it's so obvious that he did it, but has gotten away with it like O.J.
dancer226
7:51 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Robert Wager was suspect!
Missy
7:55 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Anna Rose Redlich I too believe she is in some part of the 1-355 roadway too. They need to search where the concrete was poured because all of I-355 wasnt completed till after the main part was opened
jeff
8:01 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Hes is jail for murder now who cares!
stefanie
10:46 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Stacy Peterson's family and friends care. You may not but they do.
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:42 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Just because you are heartless doesn't mean anyone else is. Her family & friends & anyone with a heart cares!! Her family needs closure, they need to find her. Once they find her, it will proove what happened to her. Then Drew can rot in Hell X2.
Alan stowell
8:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Peterson is a PSYCHOPATH. Murder is meaningless to him. What more do the investigators need? Hang the bastard!
VJ HEDERS
8:08 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
He admitted that if he killed(some if) that no one would find the evidence. He is a cop and knows how the investigation will go. He is walking evil, and someday (cold case) the real evidence will surface one way or another. I feel sorry that the women were caught up in his web of illusion. Concrete is a good way to hide the evidence and who will investigate 200 possible areas? It isn's stupid, it is just a lot of work,
Despiser of Obama
8:21 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Dancer226 Robert Wagner is not a suspect.
Natalie Wood Case Reopened: Robert Wagner Not A Suspect, Sheriff's Dept. Says
Michael McLaughlin | Nov 18, 2011 03:20 PM EST
Harold Grammer
8:23 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
There is no doubt in my mind that Robert Wagner killed Natlie and I think Peter Lawford killed Marilyn Monroe too. She was about to leak out about her affair with Robert Kennedy and that would have ruined his career. Marilyn let him in her home because they were friends and he killed her.
Elenore Tatro
8:39 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Actually I don't care what happens to DP-he can rot in the Will County Jail for the rest of his life. I too believe he killed Stacy and one day the truth will be told. As far as Marilyn Monroe, I think she was having an affair with both of them. Robert Wagner sorry don't believe he killed Natalie Wood-I think they had a fight but that's it. And crazier things have happened when people drink.
Watchful Eye
8:40 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Coincidentally, Brodskers is off the defense team, and days later, the FBI and ISP are searching Shorewood. Shorewood, where Scott Rossetto lived, and who Stacy had an eye for prior to her disappearance. Maybe the jackass of a lawyer is finally making himself useful.
Aussienat
8:56 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
That wouldn't surprise me at all. Of course, he would be breaking attorney/client privilege if he told, but ethics have never been a problem for brodders before.
Bob
8:41 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
since this story got off the track and now we are on movie stars, I seen Elvis at the mall!!
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:54 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
No, Elvis has just left the building. ;P
Plainfield Reader
7:34 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Thanks for the good laugh! That was awesome.
ROGER JONES
8:42 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
10-4 ON MM. THE KENNEDY'S PASSED HER AROUND LIKE A RAG DOLL, HAD HER KILLED WHEN SHE BECAME A POTENTIAL LIABILITY AND WON AT THE GAME. WASN'T CAMELOT WONDERFUL?
cj5214
6:22 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
now that I believe
Jonathan GIblin
10:16 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
YES!!
Despiser of Obama
8:43 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Harold grasping at straws. It was already common knowledge that while President RFK was a playboy and was seeing Marilyn Monroe and Jackie knew it.
Joanna
8:11 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You mean JFK!
DEBI TAYLOR
9:03 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
its just amazing how they let this guy just walk around town and the town folks let him just do what the hell he wanted to do...I'M SO MAD THAT THE TOWN JUST DIDN'T TAKE THIS SERIOUS....OMG...CAN THE EVER FIND THE YOUND MOM THAT HE MURDERED??? SORRY FOR THE 3RD WIFE AND HER CHILDREN...
Despiser of Obama
9:15 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
If Drew ever decided to confess to a Priest for what he has done, his sins will be absolved and he still can go to heaven. Remember Saint Longinus?
Courtney Lynn
3:56 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
NOt true you have to actually be truly sorry for forgiveness from the higher power and drew Peterson is to evil to care even a little
cj5214
6:24 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
sadly that is true
C Murphy
11:20 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Simply confessing or even actually being sorry DOES NOT remove the consequences of our actions, however.
Carl Evans
9:32 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I'm guessing DP is responsible, but didn't actually "do the deed". Think about it, he came in contact with hard core criminals, and could exchange "favors". I'd be surprised, if they ever solve the case. He's too arrogant, and acts like someone who wasn't there when it happened.
Alisa
9:40 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Everyone knew Marilyn slept with the Kennedy brothers, even their wives. When becoming someones's 'Fourth' wife, there is usually a problem with that
XCop204
9:30 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
She slept with their wives? Dang...... I had no idea. Guess we should all check into this. ;-)
Nikki
9:41 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Disciple It is JFK not RFK
XCop204
9:38 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Maybe, maybe not. Could be Disciple is on to something. Maybe it was RFK and JFK and Jackie knew about them both. Oh, maybe she was looking at younger brother with a little twinkle in her eye to get even with JFK for having Marilyn in the closet at the White House on Thursday nights while the Secret Service were playing cards with paid hookers in the dinning room. hummmmm.
What was the discussion all about when we started this... Does anyone remember?
Stacy!
Despiser of Obama
9:50 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Typo.
Penny Behning
9:58 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
@Jeff, Stacy's children, family and friends!! That's who cares!! And always will!! How did this story about Stacy get so far off subject?
Anna Rose Redlich
10:50 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Thank you Penny. I cant believe people are so stupid. Who cares? How about her family? Her friends? Her kids?
Linda Smith
10:23 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Linda
Stacy knew that Drew had marked her for death. She told a few people that he was going to kill her and get away with it. People were so charmed by Drew, that they didnt believe that he was capable of such a horrific act. Even the Police defended Drew. He killed her! He killed his third wife too! If he ever gets out he will kill his next wife too.
cj5214
6:26 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
how about his kids when they getting older and start rmembering things or start asking question will they be mudered too
Annie
12:04 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
The thing I don't understand about some of these cases is this- and I am SO SO SYMPATHETIC to Stacy's family and all the other women as well. If my husband hinted that he was gonna kill me enough that I told my neighbors and my sister and my priest, I would pack my stuff and grab my babies in the middle of the night and DISAPPEAR. I don't get that. I am not being critical- but all these wives said he told them he would kill them- why couldn't she call five witnesses to come to the house (even his cop buddies) and say to them, " I want you to keep me safe while I take my three kids out of this home." ANY COP or brother or priest would do that for her. I DON"T GET IT!!!
Despiser of Obama
10:26 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Linda Smith which Police defended Drew?
Princess1217
10:39 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I just feel for the family. He will get his KARMA.
cj5214
6:31 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
maybe they should put him in a cell with the other peterson who killed his wife and unborn son and they can exchange pointers .. have no use for anyone who does harm to women and children
Melissa Calkins-Crank
10:42 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Last year they searched for Stacy's body near Peoria, IL. which is over 100 miles away from Bolingbrook. If you would like to read about it, here is a link to it. Note: It is 2 pages long. http://www.pjstar.com/news/x1834544444/Authorities-set-to-dig-for-Stacy-Peterson-body-near-Peoria?zc_p=0
Despiser of Obama
10:47 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I don't believe in the world of Karma. He will face the real faith with God.
cj5214
6:32 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
yes and he will not be forgiven unless he is truly remorsefull and he has to be from his heart to his soul (which he has not one of these)
ld
11:06 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Boy...look at all these comments over an idiot who killed his wife....I just wish Plainfield residents would be this verbal and interested and question our village government on matters that affect our community.....like investing our taxes in attracting new business and the construction of much needed sidewalks and bikepaths. The more we are..the louder our voices ...they won't have a choice but to listen and act!
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:36 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Id....It's after hours. People are on here after work, or before bed. I know I came on when I saw it on the 10:00 news. Who cares if people are having a conversation about this? What have you done about your community lately? I'm sure these guys will be doing their part tomorrow(Tues) by voting. That alone decides on if there will be tax increases or not. is the city hall open this late? I think not. Late night chatting amongst people interested in the Stacy Peterson Case, thats all. I'm sure there's a site to talk about community matters.
Debi Krause
11:23 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
DP is NOT slick! Trust me....He just had a hand on locations to hide being a cop in town for many years. Karma is a B--ch and trust me Mr. Stupid is not slick! We will find Stacy! I bet ya!
Susie Twinkles
11:24 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
William Shatner's wife was a very troubled substance abuser with a history . As as Phil Hartman's wife... Wealth and a busy working spouse makes it easier for them to get involved in the wrong things. Neither Shatner's nor Hartman can be blamed for the misdeeds of their loved ones. They can try to get help for them which they both tried ... But , in the end it's the substance sbuser's choice .
Joanna
8:14 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Yeah, but in the end, Phil Hartman's wife killed him and then herself. :-(
Jdub721
11:29 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
Oh boy, all i have to say is looking in a few bushes has you people solving crimes all over the world!! Also, ive never been arrested before but if I ever do commit a crime i hope most of you are not jurors at my trial! I would be getting hung!! And to clear up a celeb rumor elvis was not at the mall. He is in mexico making an album with Tupac and B.I.G. Just sayin
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:35 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
LOL. Clicking the invisible "Like" button.
Melissa Calkins-Crank
11:34 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
They really need at add a like button on each comment on this page. And a dislike button too while they are at it. LOL
christinedahll
11:56 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
This man is like a male black widow spider. I'm so happy he got convicted of the one murder now they need to find Stacy and bring her home to her family. The fry the man. I am not in favor of the death penalty but here I might make an exception. Just the sheer gall this man had is amazing to me it's like he felt because he was a police officer he'd never ever get caught. He was almost right!
Leslie Lindon Rhodes
1:49 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
To Christine: People like DP is why we NEED the death penalty! Seriously you know, we can't just make one exception. You are either pro or con. I am not afraid to say that I believe in the death penalty for cases where there is "compelling evidence" (ie no doubt). Unfortunately, without a body, this case may not qualify. But if anything, use this case as fodder to think about if you want your tax dollars to pay for any person who takes a life from a family. Remember, not only has the victim lost their life, but moreover, multiple lives are negatively affected, all just by one selfish act. We need to make it simple and quick. I think they should die by lethal injection the very next day after the guilty verdict comes down. Again, only for those crimes which have unquestionable proof. No appeals in these either. Right now there is very little incentive to deter people from committing these crimes because they know if they get caught they can likely get out of it with a lawyer, get their sentence reduced and get out early. An innocent woman is dead and by giving light punishment, what does that say about us as a society? I'll tell you what it says;
it says that we think it's okay. Today's crime tolerance is not ethical! Repeat crimes are rampant. If they get out, 75%+ will commit another crime within 5 years!! Don't be afraid to stand with what is right. We should NOT have to support murderers!!
Anna Rose Redlich
12:20 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Leslie....I used to be against the death penalty but after John Wayne Gacy and he killed someone I knew now I am all for it. But only if there is no doubt. And I think the people should be killed the way they killed their victims. I know that The Bible says thou shall not kill but......It tears me apart.....Maybe if we start teaching our kids that you do wrong you will get punished not just a lecture and maybe a time out....
Dross Cool
12:24 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
THE MAN IS PURE PUS
Adam
12:25 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
It's just Black Widow, or in Drew's case, Black Widower. It comes from the term used for someone who loses a spouse, widow. It has nothing to do with the spider. Just saying. Not trying to be mean. Go Cubs/Bears/Bulls/Blackhawks/ or whoever.....
Lisa
4:53 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Hi Adam - Actually, it does have something to do with the spider, because the Black Widow does kill and eat her mate after copulation. That is why women who murder their husbands are called Black Widows. Like you said, though, in Drew's case it is Black Widower.
gia talley
12:47 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
"Peterson's stepbrother, Thomas Morphey, has said Peterson enlisted him in an effort to frame former Shorewood resident Scott Rossetto for Stacy's murder."
Is this the same guy that said she was in a blue barrel? What happened to that theory?
Aussienat
9:01 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
What happened? The blue barrel has never been found. I believe Tom Morphey'sw story (the stepbrother), but without any proof, what can the authorities do?
I desperately hope they find Stacy so her family can know for sure what happened to her, but I'm starting to think he hid her too well.
Mary Barfield
12:51 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Someone should make a movie about a scumbag like DP that gets a new girl, falls in "love" and finds himself in the same position he put those wives in. Would anyone go and see it. I think it would be satisfying.
Melissa Calkins-Crank
1:17 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
There is a movie. It's called Drew Peterson "Untouchable." Starring Rob Lowe as DP. And Kaley Cuoco(Penny from The Big Bang Theory as Stacy). they played the rolls very great. rob Lowe was made up to look near identical to DP.
forget me
1:33 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
There are cops from other districts with their theories. One being she is in a pilon in the 355 or drew also had a friend who had a crematory.
Eri
4:25 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
That theory is going rampant, and it's quite possible. I hope they can find her, her family get their "closure" and he rots... I'd prefer him to be hung by the gallows... he doesn't deserve a quick death.
Boomer
1:53 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
There are too many a--hole cops who take advantage of their power to do dirty crimes and take favors for other corruption. Peterson fits the part. I would like to line him up among other cops I have dealt with in the past and let them guess their fate.
Jeannette
4:28 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Drew Peterson should tell. THe truth your going to prison anyway. So save tax payers the money and confess
curious
4:47 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Why never hypnotise and use of lie detector or even medicine to bring the suspect into semi-conscious state as possible means of investigation?
just like obama's mission to kill bin laden, just get the truth within shortest possible time by all means, and if the suspect has proved to be clear of suspicion, then release him and change investigation target
Naomi Aguilar
5:13 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You're an idiot to compare this to Obama. Its a fct that Americans are ill informed - you are definately one of them Please check your sources before you put your fingers on the key board. I bet you are a repuke as well.
Joanna
8:17 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Because lie detectors are not solid enough and you can't alter someone's mental state. That would never be allowed.
XCop204
10:03 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
hypnosis can be used only to help to recall information and only with strict guidelines in its use for law enforcement investigative work. It differs greatly from other types of hypnosis. A person can lie while under hypnosis and it has even been used to help a person to lie to beat a "lie detector". Nothing really beats a good investigator with an attitude and an open mind that is willing to use any and all investigative tools to assist his feet on the ground, and listening to and looking into all information he can get. One small or even stupid thing overlooked by everyone else may provide the answer to it all.
Naomi Aguilar
5:12 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Peterson is the most vile and evil person I can think of. It makes my stomach turn when I see a photo of him - or on TV. I hope that Karma will kick in and that he starts making mistakes. He is an arrogant bastard .
SKF22
7:16 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You should have seen how arrogant he was at trial. Everytime the court addressed him, he stood up out of his chair for everyone to see him. His lawyers kept telling him to sit, but he just did not care. I was 5 feet behind him, I wanted to pull his chair out from under him! Hope he rots for this.
robert stone
5:21 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
This guy collects wives. For the woman reading this article, most men are ok. But check their backgrounds. There are inexpensive ways now to do it.
SKF22
7:14 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Being that I was at the Drew Peterson trial, sitting in his family seats because they were the only ones left and nobody came to see him, I saw a lot first hand. I also met Stacy's family and looked at family photos of when Drew was still with Stacy. There is a LOT we all don't know, but what we do know is that he killed her, just like Kathleen. If anyone on here wants to make up stories, compare him to Obama, or just speak words of nonsense, save it because you sound dumb. We don't know if she is in concrete, creamated, buried, or in the walls of the house (pretty ridiculous assumption) so why don't we all just stop making up exciting horror movie sequences, and realize that this is a real life situation and a real woman who lost her life. Also, I can't believe how many of you are mispelling the easiest words ever. But anyway, Drew is guilty and all I hope for is that the search for Stacy to continue and bring some closure to her family.
Joanna
8:20 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You misspelled misspelling. :-)
Joanna
8:21 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You also misspelled cremated.
XCop204
9:05 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You go, SKF! Big thing is closure for family, justice for Stacy! When ever and how ever it may come, may God be with them all. Let's never forget Stacy or Kathleen.
drew peterson should rot in jail until it's his time in Hell.
(XCop204)
MIke Brown
7:55 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
First and foremeost, I have a very low opinion of the law team, especially the states attorney of Will County. They have bungled evidence, arrested the wrong people, and just seem to be staffed by people who are basically careless. Peterson is a low-life no question, and belongs in Hell. But there were a lot of crooked individuals that assisited in covering up the truth regarding the "waterless" drowing of Kathleen Salvo. Then they had to exume the body to re-evlauate the cause of death. What a damn circus !!!
tony baker
11:06 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
yep
Paula T
8:00 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Drew Peterson MAKES ME SICK.. Scott Peterson, Drew Peterson.... MUST BE THE NAME..... Same name... same sick bastards.
Joanna
8:21 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Hey, I dated a guy with the last name Peterson. They're not all bad. :-)
Phillip Migliore
8:07 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
We all know he did it & we all know he is an ASS.....He wants people to think he is nuts, so he wont get DEATH....
Aussienat
9:06 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
What a strange observation. I don't think Peterson is trying to make people think he is 'nuts', and he's not facing death, he's facing 60 years in prison.
larry men
8:19 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
he dumped her in someones septic tank.....
Tori
8:32 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Even though Stacy did not deserve to be (allegedly) murdered, let's not forget that she used to flip off Kathleen Savio when she was alive and (allegedly) knew that Drew murdered Kathleen but did not report him to the authorities so for many years Kathleen's family did not have closure and Stacy held the key to that closure. Now Stacy's family knows what Kathleen's family went through. I do hope they find Stacy and can successfully charge and convict Drew for her murder.
Aussienat
9:07 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
What was the point of that little dig at Stacy?
Glers
8:58 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
What about Lisa Stebic, looks like her husband is getting away with murder
Bryan Merritt
8:59 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Being a trained police officer he would know how to get rid of the body and all traces of the crime. He is not all that smart though but still It will be especially hard to find anything but it can be done. I hope they can find her for the sake of her family. And also so that monster will pay for his crime.
Despiser of Obama
9:07 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Cremated or in concrete columns I doubt it. If in fact she is dead she is somewhere in the ground.
Despiser of Obama
9:09 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Austin the movie had a lot of B.S in it. What do you find 100% accurate.
Melissa Calkins-Crank
9:27 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I actually think they did a good job telling the story in the movie. Nothing seemed really off-key to me. It seemed they really stuck with the real story. And in the ending they still never show what actually happened to Stacy. They just show Drew & his brother loading up the blue barrel into his SUV & driving off. But Nothing beyond that. It leaves everyone with confusion of where she would be, just as in reality. (I followed the whole real story from the start. My friend Nina is a friend of Stacy's deceased sister Tina, whom passed away from cancer. She really follows even more than I. Praying for closure. Praying they find her.
jnrentz1
9:13 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
For an interesting Maryland case please visit:
www.bernadettestevensoncaruso.org/
judy
9:23 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
God Bless Stacy and her family and friends I truly hope that scumbag burns in hell for an eternity how dare he take the life of any woman and think he'd get away with it I believe he'll trust the wrong person in jail and justice will prevail I cannot understand why he doesn't admit it anyways hes not going anywhere for the rest of his life this is truly a sad situation especially for the innocent children who need to bury their mom and move on with their lives!
Don
9:31 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
All convicted murders should be subjected to truth serum drugs and other tools to get information from them about crimes they have committed, if one of my loved ones where killed I would want the killer to confess to the crime and their where a bouts so I can give them a proper funeral and burial. But no, Drew Peterson will keep that information locked up in his brain for life because he has rights and supporters.
Joanna
10:21 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You cannot mentally alter someone or torture them within our justice system. Any confessions would be thrown out and the perp allowed to walk. All you can do is hope for some good, honest police work, finding evidence, a confession, or for the perp to slip up and commit a different crime so they're still behind bars, ala OJ Simpson, Joran Vandersloot, etc.
Despiser of Obama
11:03 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Don better yet give truth serum to all Politicians and anyone that runs for President to see who is and isn't lying so we can vote for the best person.
Mags
9:46 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Everyone makes a mistake....the key is to find DP's. I do agree with putting him in with Bubba to see how it feels to be a nothing! As that is I am sure what he made his Wife's feel like. I feel for his Wive'sTheir Familys and his Childern. Lets just hope that they do not grow up with the same gene disorder that DP has.
hank
9:47 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
They may not be able to find Stacy's body, but Drew was found guilty of the previous wife's murder. So he is in prison for that. Now, just like Natalie Holloway's body has not been found, Van der Sloot nearly got away with it but then he killed another girl- now in prison for THAT. OJ- couldn't hang him on his wife and Ron Goldman's death, but they finally got him in the slammer for trying to steal his trophy back. This is justice, for all of those sociopaths that thought they got away with it and so did it again. The pattern follows them around. If they are not in prison, they are in for another. FBI knows what it is doing. There will be no peace for those idiots - ever. Stacy's death helped bring her husband to justice for killing his prior wife. That is worth something in and of itself.
Despiser of Obama
9:55 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
What does Bubba have to with it?
S maullar
10:07 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
You know anyone who has lived with a control freak who has threatened their live knows in their heart what happened - she's dead - who knows where or how - just that he did it. I really feel for his kids, because they are the living victims of this.
Joanna
10:24 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Yep. You can tell he's a control freak. I know my ex husband was one. He threatened to kill our pets if I ever called the cops on him, and then threatened to hunt me down and kill me once he got out of jail/prison. I didn't even go to court when we got a divorce. Not worth it. Of course, he threatened me if I tried to get any alimony. You know Stacy's dead. Otherwise she would have come forward by now. Plus he murdered his last wife before Stacy...
XCop204
10:25 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Yeah, he was a trained police officer (and that makes me sick to even say it), he surely knows how to hide or obstruct a criminal investigation. I'm sure he has seen or know about crimes that were or never could be solved or a know offender charged because of some simple or stupid thing that could never be used in court, thus No Case. He is smart, a genius, a Mr Holmes of skills.. able to solve or even comit the perfect crime.. untouchable...in his own mind. Lets hope this is true. He tried it before and thought he could do it again and again, but he made mistakes then and I know he made mistakes again in this case. There will be some good police and other law enforcement officers that will bust this thing open. They too are needing closure on this.... Cop gone Bad or most likely alway bad and evil. One of their own is branding all law enforcement officers as bad.
XCop204
10:28 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Enough for today... now I must go and fight evil one again as I tried to do as a law enforcement officer and investigator for many years... I am going to VOTE.
May God help us all and our nation....
Despiser of Obama
3:20 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Please read one of my comments I posted earlier, I never said just Catholics go to heaven.
Jesus said I'am the way , the truth and the life. No person will get into Heaven unless he goes thru me. John 14:16
tom
4:34 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
You said that you have to confess your sins to a priest, not just God to go to Heaven. It's doubtful that non-Catholics do this so you must believe that Heaven is only for Catholics.
mwood
10:27 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
i am bothered by anyone being convicted on circumstsntial evidence
Linda
10:50 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I think Drew is a animal and he knows in his heart he killed at least two wives. He needs a cell next to OJ and a 400 lb Baba as his Master.
He thinks he is smarter than the average person but he isn't and the truth always comes out sooner or later.
I hope he never sees the light of day or taste a fine prime rib or drink a fine glass of wine. Eat your peanut butter and Jelly and sleep on the cement floor like a animal that you are.
I hope your nights are full of nightmares and you wake up in cold sweats. I hope you have to look over your shoulder with fear, fear that your put on your wives day after day. May you suffer everyday the rest of your life and I hope you live to be 100 years old and guilt ridden.
I have no mercy for you. You deserve all the pain you put on your wives times 100.
May God put you in burning HELL the moment you take your last breath of air.
Despiser of Obama
11:52 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
All Drew has to do is confess to a Priest mercifully at any given time and he can be absolved of his wrong doings and still see Heaven!
Joanna
11:57 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Wow Linda.
Joanna
12:01 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Disciple-Drew does not have to confess to a priest. And confessing your sins is not how you get to Heaven. However, if he does admit that there is a God and Jesus Christ is His son who died on the cross for our sins and rose again, then yes, he can still get to Heaven. That is called mercy and grace. He will, however, still be held accountable for what he's done on this earth.
Despiser of Obama
1:01 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Joanna the only time a person/Catholic can have his sins absolved w/o going to a Priest is when the person is dying and there's no Priest available. We can pray and ask for forgiveness and repent for all our sins. Other wise one does have to go to confession and see a Priest to be forgiven for their sins.
catwoman22
1:40 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I totally agree...except to say Peanut butter (yum) and jelly is WAY to good for this souless bas_ard. How about sardines and stale crackers...LOL LOL
Joanna
3:14 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Disciple-only God can forgive your sins. You can confess directly to Him. You don't have to go to a priest, who is simply a man. This is why I don't understand Catholics. :-)
Despiser of Obama
5:03 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Joanna we pray to God to forgive us for our sins, but we still have to go to a Priest to confess our sins and get absolution from the Priest.
Joanna
8:07 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Disciple-that's why I'm glad I'm not Catholic. No middle man. :-)
tom
8:29 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
If that's what you believe that I guess your Heaven will be filled with a lot of pedophile priests.
If it's as simple as that, explain why you believe in purgatory.
By the way, we all know that you've chosen a new name but you're still the same Pro Life, Vera, Selleck, Morelli...
Despiser of Obama
9:51 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Tom it's God's choice to forgive sins. If you don't like it, don't think about it. You are so stuck on pedophile Priest. Get over it, there's many many more pedophiles out there then there are Priest. It's just not pedophile Priest that will probably make it to Heaven, but all types of people that have sinned one way or the other. As for purgatory that's a brief pit stop for many sinners to atone for their sins, before going to Heaven.
Despiser of Obama
9:55 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Joanna as you say it, no middle man. Who is your savior then. It sure can't be a false God to do it. Only one true God created all of us and can forgive us.
Joanna
10:19 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Disciple-I meant that I can go directly to God and confess my sins and be forgiven. I don't need a priest, a fellow sinner, to help me out with that. My Savior is the Lord, Jesus Christ. You are right-there is only one true God. And Jesus Christ is His Son and died on the cross for us and all our sins. He is the bridge between us and God.
Despiser of Obama
10:44 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Joanna unfortunately it doesn't work that way by just praying to God for forgiveness of sins. If you really believe in one God, you still need confession.
Re: Do we REALLY Need To Go To Confession To Be Forgiven??
Brushy, if you are a Catholic, and commit mortal sin, you need to go to confession. I know you were probably really young (7) when you had your first confession, and a lot of the teaching probably 'went over your head'. People in the last 4 decades have underutilized confession, have been poorly catechized, and in many cases have been outright lied to. But since you're asking (Good for you! ), you are being given God's grace to get a good, definitive answer. So here is from the Catechism:
1484 "Individual, integral confession and absolution remain the only ordinary way for the faithful to reconcile themselves with God and the Church, unless physical or moral impossibility excuses from this kind of confession."95 There are profound reasons for this. Christ is at work in each of the sacraments. He personally addresses every sinner: "My son, your sins are forgiven."96 He is the physician tending each one of the sick who need him to cure them.97 He raises them up and reintegrates them into fraternal communion. Personal confession is thus the form most expressive of reconciliation with God and with the Church.
Joanna
10:58 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Disciple-yes, you confess your sins. To God. That IS the way it works. You confess your sins to God and ask Him for forgiveness. The way you are able to do that is through Jesus. No priest required! I don't need a priest to tell me that I'm forgiven, I already know I am. I don't need to confess to a priest for I confess directly to the One who forgives. I don't need to say ten Hail Mary's or any other saying, because He will tell me how to make things right and simply by confessing and praying and being sorrowful and humble, He will forgive me.
tom
10:58 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Vera, you crack me up. No matter how many times you change your name, it's easy to spot you when you start talking about "your" religion.
However, there are a few flaws. You say that all you have to do is confess to a priest but then you contradict that by saying you also need a "pit stop" to atone for your sins. Which is it?
What Bible passage says that only people that confess their sins to a Catholic priest make it into Heaven?
How does saying 5 Hail Mary's make up for killing someone?
Another thing, why the need to pray to saints? Why not go to the big guy directly?
Lastly, you may want to brush up on your faith. It appears that you've forgotten a few things.
"2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury.278 He becomes guilty:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279
- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way: "
Despiser of Obama
11:23 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Tom, Vera who? I'm one of PLC's church member and now I speak for him as his disciple.
It is the will of God as established by Christ that He forgive serious sins in this way, through an ordained priest who acts in the Person of Christ in the Sacrament of Confession. Just as we rely on ordained men for the consecration of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ, so too did God ordain priests to forgive sins. The priest in the Sacrament of Confession represents both Christ and the Church, to which both were offended by our sin(s), and from whom we must be forgiven. Reconciliation to Christ and His Body (the Church) is formally accomplished in this sacrament.
Then why bother asking God's forgiveness beforehand?
Because it's natural and human to do so. Otherwise Confession would be seen as a legalistic, mechanical ritual rather than the encounter of forgiveness of a personal offense (against God) in a personal relationship. We don't wait until right before Confession to be sorry. That would be dishonest.
If we express sorrow immediately, aren't we forgiven and able again to receive Him in Communion?
No, unless it is a true emergency. Should the person die before having the opportunity to confess in the sacrament on Confession, a true, honest act of contrition (of sorrow) to God grants the repentant heart the grace needed for salvation.
Despiser of Obama
11:26 am on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Tom you need to go back to relgious ed for a refresher crash course.
The Catechism of the Catholic Church defines purgatory as a "purification, so as to achieve the holiness necessary to enter the joy of heaven," which is experienced by those "who die in God’s grace and friendship, but still imperfectly purified" (CCC 1030). It notes that "this final purification of the elect . . . is entirely different from the punishment of the damned" (CCC 1031).
The purification is necessary because, as Scripture teaches, nothing unclean will enter the presence of God in heaven (Rev. 21:27) and, while we may die with our mortal sins forgiven, there can still be many impurities in us, specifically venial sins and the temporal punishment due to sins already forgiven.
tom
12:58 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Disciple/PLC/Vera...
Where does the Bible talk about purgatory? or needing to confess your sins to a priest in order to get into heaven? or that you need to pray to saints...?
Do you really think Heaven is filled only with people that were Catholic?
What do you have to say about you violating the teachings of your church on this message board on a daily basis? Do you just commit the sins and then rush to your priest and ask for forgiveness?
Despiser of Obama
1:40 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Tom I can tell you that an atheist that defies the one true God all their life and until they die sure aren't in Heaven , just as much that believers in pagan's with their false Gods. Who is Vera and PLC , I'm one of his disciples. What sins, that I should run to my Priest! Tom you should listen to relevant radio. They had on Father Rocky on today and guess what he discussed? That you can pray to God for forgiveness, but one still has to go to confession to be absolved of his sins and get full forgiveness and prayer. Let me guess Father Rocky is wrong?
tom
2:21 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
What about the Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists....? Based on what you say, you must not believe that they go to Heaven.
I don't doubt that a priest said what you say he did but that doesn't make it true. I'm asking you to point to a Bible verse that says that you must confess your sins to a Catholic priest before you will be allowed in Heaven.
You've posted a few times but have yet to answer why you go against the teaching of your church on a daily basis when you post your comments. Why the avoidance?
Despiser of Obama
2:44 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Tom Father Rocky is on now at Relavent radio give him a call and ask him.
tom
2:54 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
So you're like a lemming. You don't know why you do what you do. You just do it because someone told you to.
Do YOU believe that only Catholics are in Heaven. Simple question. Yes or no?
Despiser of Obama
2:56 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Leviticus 5:13
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And the priest shall make an atonement for him concerning his sin that he has sinned in one of these, and it shall be forgiven him: and the remnant shall be the priest's, as a grain offering.
Despiser of Obama
3:08 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Never said only Catholics, but one has to believe in Jesus.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cTr8OoGMA0&sns=em
tom
3:08 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Sorry but that passage only says that a priest and or pastor (Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist...) can forgive sins but nothing about it being a requirement to be allowed into Heaven.
What passage tells you that you must confess to a priest and not ask God directly for forgiveness?
You never explained why you go against this teaching of your church when you make your comments.
""2477 Respect for the reputation of persons forbids every attitude and word likely to cause them unjust injury.278 He becomes guilty:
- of rash judgment who, even tacitly, assumes as true, without sufficient foundation, the moral fault of a neighbor;
- of detraction who, without objectively valid reason, discloses another's faults and failings to persons who did not know them;279
- of calumny who, by remarks contrary to the truth, harms the reputation of others and gives occasion for false judgments concerning them.
2478 To avoid rash judgment, everyone should be careful to interpret insofar as possible his neighbor's thoughts, words, and deeds in a favorable way: "
Still waiting for a yes or no from you. Do you believe that only Catholics are allowed into Heaven?
Joanna
8:12 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Disciple-what you said about atheists. It's true that if they die without accepting God that they're not in Heaven. But it's also true that as long as they believe with all their heart, even on their death bed, that they will get into Heaven. Just like the thief on the cross next to Jesus. Just couldn't tell from your wording what you believed.
krafter19
11:29 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I THINK DEXTER NEEDS TO BREAK DREW OUT OF JAIL AND SHRINK WRAP HIM TO HIS TABLE!!!!
Melissa Calkins-Crank
7:35 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
;D
Aussienat
9:12 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
You do know Dexter is a fictional character, right?
DOUGLAS L SCOTT
11:38 am on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
the moment you have a body, than what. I think the FBI on to something maybe he killed more might need the body to see how she died .I think he likes killing.
Ken
12:34 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Looks like Crusader, Vera, Tom Selleck, Morelli...has created a new alias again. This time he's Disciple.
Is there some way that the Patch can keep someone from creating a new alias after he's been banned?
If not, what good does it do to ban them in the first place?
Igor von Wurttemburg
12:46 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
They should give him a sex change operation , since he kills women then he would commit suicide and the state would save on costs of "due process"
Yes , this is Igor and...." I AM ALIVE"
Despiser of Obama
12:46 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Ken sorry I'm my own person! The other names you mentioned sure aren't me. Stop speculating. :-)
Ken
12:59 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I guess it's just a coincidence that you just joined yesterday after PLC was banned and one of your first posts was in defense of PLC/Vera/Selleck/Morelli...
7:18 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
I find it disgusting that this Skb person isn't banned for her racist overtones of Middle Eastern people as all terrorist. Then I see people here wanting PLC banned. It isn't logical.
Despiser of Obama
1:04 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
Ken God works in Mysterious ways and I'm a disciple of my friend PLC. Is that wrong? Do you think Skb isn't a racist?
20122010
3:25 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I think she can be burried under the Adventist Bolingbrook hospital it was built in 2008 who would think to check there.....they are not going to knock down a brand new hospital just to check for a body she went missing oct 2007 and they had already knew the hospital was to be built
forget me
4:10 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
The Fbi is still there right now
forget me
4:13 pm on Tuesday, November 6, 2012
I am sure this was thought out in advance why not check phone records for the prior year with lings maybe he previously visited the area first
THink more
4:26 pm on Wednesday, November 7, 2012
Hey Disciple- Here is more clarification for absolution OR forgiveness of sins.....
Absolution of sins most importantly forgiveness of sins when done by a priest (and, when done before death, ensures one dies in a "state of grace", able to eventually enter heaven);
However, for certain especially GRAVE SINS to be forgiven and for the accompanying Church penalties to be lifted, there are formal processes which must take place along with the absolution, which must then be given (depending on the seriousness of the type of sin) either by the Pope (through the Apostolic Penitentiary), the local Bishop, or a priest authorized by the Bishop.
forget me
9:31 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Why don't you guys start your own forum and discuss your religious views there.
Aussienat
9:12 pm on Sunday, November 11, 2012
Good idea. Also, not everybody believes in some random guy in the sky.
Despiser of Obama
10:15 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Nancy religion is freedom of speech. Are you afraid of it.
Francis' Best Friend
10:34 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
This has nothing to do with free speech, Francis. It's the fact that this whole story had nothing to do with religion until you started spamming it across this board. I have a vision that one day, you'll be building a shed or something and you'll smack your head on a plank of wood. Then you will have this great realization that you have been a jerk to everyone on this website and apologize to everyone for your horrible talk on here. I still like how you continue to think that everyone else has no idea you switch your name each time you get banned.
Despiser of Obama
10:54 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
FBF if you learn how to read? Snicker! Linda brought God into this topic first and I retorted ! Plus I'm a disciple of who ever you think I'am. Can't stop us now. :-)
Francis' Best Friend
11:42 am on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Disciple, were did you learn to retort?
Disciple
9:15 pm on Monday, November 5, 2012
If Drew ever decided to confess to a Priest for what he has done, his sins will be absolved and he still can go to heaven. Remember Saint Longinus?
The first time Linda brought up religion was a full day later. It's OK though. I already was expecting you'd make up an excuse. We're all used to it by now
Despiser of Obama
12:01 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
FBF still none of your business. I was stating a true and honest fact. Let me guess , you're another one afraid of religion. You and others are like the Government trying to silent us and trying to force our religion to do things the way the President is trying to do. We are here to stay and the so called President will lose his fight with us.
Francis' Best Friend
2:20 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
I like how you get called out on something and then say "none of your business." As if this whole thing was your story/business in the first place. Then you change the topic. Also, I'm fairly sure I'm not afraid of religion. As well as think that the president is trying to silent religious people. I mean, unless you are for the Westboro Baptist Church picketing fallen soldiers funerals. Which it is now illegal to picket from 2 hours before, to 2 hours after a funeral. Other than that, not much has changed. Just more people becoming more outspoken about religious beliefs/non-beliefs. Not even in a bad way, just more willing to talk about what they really feel. Which apparently upsets you.
Francis' Best Friend
2:23 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You can believe what you want, but telling me I'm going to rot in hell or float in purgatory just seems a bit rude. There's a difference from people telling others what they believe and why they believe it/why they think you should believe it, to the people who will become upset/angry and tell you how horrible of a person you are because of what you believe (not even about something a person has done, just what they believe). Just seems a bit close minded and rude, is all.
Despiser of Obama
2:28 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
FBF Obama sucks and he thinks he will be able to force the HHR mandate on the Catholics. He's going to lose the fight against the religious freedom movement. And the ones turning their back and being outspoken against religion are turning to intrinsic evil.
Despiser of Obama
2:32 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
FBF I didn't mention anywhere that you are going to purgatory. Guilty Conscience?
Francis' Best Friend
2:57 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Disciple, I'll say that purgatory bit wasn't directed at a statement you made, just a generalization. You were talking about it earlier and I'm just saying it doesn't seem beyond you to say something like that. And there is nothing anyone can say that can convince me or any other logical thinking person, that the "HHS" ideas are problematic. They aren't forcing anyone to get contraception. But I'm sure you have other thoughts on that too.
Despiser of Obama
3:08 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
HHS mandate is still trying to force Catholic groups to put contraception in their health insurance premiums for their employees. That's why several Archbishops have filed lawsuits against the Obama administration and HHS. We just had a large rally a couple of weeks ago Downtown to protest the HHS mandate. And yes, HHS is problematic in every sense.
Francis' Best Friend
3:12 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
You're right. Sorry. Disease prevention cause many issues.
Despiser of Obama
3:20 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
The issue is that HHS is also trying to tell Catholic groups and hospitals they may have to dispense condoms too. Not a chance in hell.
Despiser of Obama
3:14 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Plus us/we Catholics have been told that our religion had no place in politics and we should stay in the background. Well guess what people, we Catholics are the people of the U.S./Constitution too and have our rights to speak out and fight our political views to the very end.
Despiser of Obama
3:16 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
FBF best disease control, don't put it where it doesn't belong and if you don't know the person the first night you met them don't do anything.
Francis' Best Friend
3:40 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
Because people you know for a long time couldn't possible have an STD and if they did everyone would disclose these things? Also there are several STDs that a person can carry for quite some time without having any symptons and still pass it right along.
Despiser of Obama
3:46 pm on Thursday, November 8, 2012
That's one law I have no problem with if passed. . Mandatory test before marriage for STD's or be tested as ones annual check up to nip it in the bud.